金灯台的转移 2011, Sep, 12 西敏神学院讲道 再一次，首先 我仍然认为我根本不够资格 在这里进行任何演说或演讲 但靠着上帝的恩典 我试着勇敢站出来告诉你们 上帝在我一生中对我的引导 我认为也该对你们说明 赞美上帝 归正神学已经在过去的五百年中 证明其 人权顺服于上帝的主权下 的立场 最坚定的神学系统之一 在过去的500年里 归正神学已经证明其为 最忠实、最一致和最重要的信仰捍卫者 透过上帝在耶稣基督里的启示 这些也已成为教会跟我们 在永恒中的属灵产业 今天我要和你谈谈 历史的焦点和其在永恒的发展 这意味着什么 论到历史 我们要讨论两个角度 首先，是人类的努力、以及上帝的作为 人类总是认为我们够聪明 我们够有能力来完成我们想要做的事 就如同建造巴别塔的动机一样 为要宣扬、为要荣耀 为要传扬我们的名 以及我们在历史上的成就 但在那里，很明显的 上帝亲自干预了这一段历史， 以及每一段历史的进程 有时上帝的干预似乎是看不见的 因为我们不得见上帝 所以人们总认为 我们不需要上帝的干预 我们不需关心 所谓超越自然的力量 在自然界中所做的工作 因着人类的自主性 我们认为我们有足够的能力去 管理、安排 并计划一切我们所要完成的事 因此我认为 身为信徒，应该看清楚 上帝在人类历史中的作为 如果你能看到上帝的手 如今在我们当中的作为 你就能因信看见上帝和祂的宝座 和圣灵的引导 如何只在那些相信并遵守 服从三位一体上帝的人 这是非常重要的 由于这种神圣的干预，人因信得以与神和好 所以我们就了解 这焦点是如何 被人类文化所拒绝与忽视 放眼历史 每一个世代 总有在当下被人忽略 无视的事件发生 但在最终，从人类远程的文化历史回顾 才明白这些事件是何等重大、不容忽视 当上帝呼召亚伯拉罕时说 “你要离开本地、本族、父家 往我所要指示你的地方去”(创世记 12:1) 祂没有告诉亚伯拉罕要往哪里去 最后的终点在哪？ 但单单凭着信心 身为上帝的子民，亚伯拉罕就顺服了 你知道吾珥在当时 是世界上最大的城市吗？ 而美索不达米亚平原是 人类文明的摇篮 这个在当时拥有最高文化的城市 考古学家在发现的房屋遗址中 有些房子甚至有158间房间 清楚可见当时极为富裕与繁荣的光景 但我应该告诉你 在上帝呼招亚伯拉罕离开那个城市之后 美索布达米亚平原 已经失去了它的独特地位 任何时候当神介入干预 在一些选民与顺服的人身上时 历史就改变了 金灯台就转移了 宇宙的中心也跟着移转 亚伯拉罕从吾珥被呼召出来 吾珥就失去了它独特的地位 如今吾珥这个城市 在历史书籍中已鲜少被提起 因为在那之后，它对于今日的人们 已没有独特的地位 但在这之后的亚伯拉罕 却成为人类文化中最重要的转折 上帝在任何时间对历史伸出干预的手 历史的轨迹就转移了 上帝用祂的荣耀创造了整个宇宙 但在整个宇宙中 却只有一个极小的核心 上帝的焦点不在太阳 不是银河系 不是银河系外的其他众星 或银河系的任何地方 但创造的焦点 却只在这小小的地球上 它的尺寸大小并不重要 但只要是上帝的心意在哪里，那里就很重要 意义连结上帝的心意 也就意味着我们应该明白谁的旨意 谁赋予它意义 这意义就是上帝永恒旨意的展现 使得这意义真的有了意义的价值 如果这意义在永生上帝的话语中 和永恒的心意无关 这意义在上帝的面前就毫无价值 所以当上帝呼召亚伯拉罕离开吾珥时 上帝的心意转移 历史的重点也跟着转移了 因此，上帝创造宇宙的有一个心意的中心 就是地球 而地球的中心就是上帝的选民 为什么预定论在归正神学中如此重要? 因为在上帝永恒的旨意中 上帝要人属祂 继承祂的意念 完成祂的意志 并献上自己 在祂的旨意中活过来 这就是整个宇宙的焦点在地球上的原因 因为这个世界(地球)的焦点在人 因为人是以上帝的形像跟样式所造的 所以人应该活出上帝的形象跟样式 上帝的形象跟样式首先成全在 祂的独生爱子耶稣基督身上 耶稣基督是宇宙永恒中的一切焦点 无论是我们认为自然或者超自然的 唯有照着上帝形象样式所造的人 知道应当活出属神的形象跟样式 所以人可以以上帝的心为心 而这样的合一是在基督里 与上帝的意志和心意连结而成的 这连结是奥秘 这连结是永恒的 这是在属灵上的连结 这是最初的连结 这样的连结将我们的生命 带回到生命的源头 这创造生命的源头依着祂的意念 创造了万有 这是为什么 当摩西带领以色列百姓 离开埃及这为奴之家 埃及在历史中，就失去了它的重要地位 埃及不再具有意义了 埃及就如同在历史中被掩盖了 如此严肃、如此令人敬畏 以至于我们每次思想在圣经中启示 每一个重大事件背后的原则 神的心意一直在地上 从一个地方转移另一个地方 我们读过埃及吗？ 当我们读到埃及的时候你想到什么？ 我们想到Tutankhamun (图坦卡门) 我们读到金字塔 并当时的伟大建筑 我们了解了什么？ 如今的埃及已经不具有当时的地位 因为从救恩的角度来看历史 上帝的旨意和这旨意中的奥秘 是彰显在埃及这个伟大帝国 却变成奴役选民之地的转变 因为了解上帝的心意 并以上帝的心为心 进而与耶稣基督相连结 摩西说：我宁愿受苦带领上帝的百姓 (他宁可和神的百姓同受苦害) 也不愿意在埃及皇宫中享受丰富和荣耀与声望 (也不愿暂时享受罪中之乐) 之后埃及不再具有其原本的地位 埃及的荣光不再 埃及的意义不再 在上帝的眼中，这地位的消失并不重要 因为上帝的旨意将持续运行 上帝的金灯台正在转移 转移到上帝所拣选的百姓 当你明白这个原则 并熟读圣经 你会看到上帝是何等的伟大 祂照着祂的永恒的旨意 上帝的拣选并不取决于一群人 以数量论断 反倒因生命的质量而拣选这少数的人 这些体贴上帝心意并存心顺服祂旨意的人 这些全心全意追求并爱上帝的人 因被拣选，在地上执行上帝的计划 我们看见一个接续一个 除了亚伯拉罕 以诺、诺亚、摩西、大卫、以利亚和但以理 同样的拣选一再发生 上帝心意的焦点正在转移 一次、一次又一次的转移 直到众圣徒的心意与上帝的心意相合 直到众圣徒的意念与上帝的意念相合 直到上帝最终的旨意在教会中成全 那看不见的、属灵的、在天上的大公教会 真正的基督徒、因信称义的真信徒 当我在莫斯科、明斯克、基辅 在白俄罗斯、列宁格勒、＿＿＿＿＿ 、圣彼得堡传教时 我问他们关于福音派的事 他们并不明白什么是福音派 他们也不明白何谓归正 他们并不想要了解 他们也不想要回答我 他们回答说：在俄罗斯 我们并没有福音派或者大公教会这样的名词 这些名词都是从美国进口的 但在我们俄罗斯这里 我们只有两种基督徒 信徒和非信徒 我感到非常的震惊 这是一个非常好的区别 这是很好的说法 因为上帝说， 人非有信就不能得神的喜悦 (希伯来书11:6) 所以这样的区别是很好的 这是一个相信的人，而那些是不信的人 所谓相信的人 是在上帝面前顺从上帝的旨意 遵行上帝的话语 体贴并相信上帝的启示 这些人实为回到圣经教训的圣徒 亲爱的弟兄姐妹 我们若看见上帝是这样行事的神 当以利亚到上帝面前献祭时 他为何不去耶路撒冷呢？ 不是每一个以色列人 都必须一年三次到耶路撒冷的圣殿献祭吗？ 不是应该在圣殿的祭坛上献上祭品给上帝吗？ 这是第一次，(以利亚的献祭) 圣殿失去了它的地位 因为上帝不仅在 这个地区 这个城市做工 上帝自己是超越自然的 所以我是如此的惊讶 如此伟大的先知 是以色列人所认同的 没有人否认以利亚是先知中的先知 但以利亚从来不曾到过耶路撒冷 更不可能在圣殿的祭坛上献祭 他不曾踏入圣殿中 以利亚是在所罗门圣殿建成 许久之后才出生 但他为什么不服从神的话语 因着上帝的大能 上帝的金灯台已经转移到以利亚的身上 以利亚来到迦密山 (Mt. Carmel) 后 在迦密山，他在从天上降下的火中得着复兴 在那时起，耶路撒冷就失去了它的地位 在耶路撒冷失去它地位之后 直到耶稣在耶路撒冷的城墙外 被上钉十字架的日子 这衰败就更加清晰可见了 在西元73年 罗马帝国击败了在马萨达的 最后一批以色列部队 圣殿的祭坛上就停止了献祭 先知不再有 君王不再出 祭司也不再现 这意味着什么呢？ 以色列已不再需要先知、君王和祭司 这在过去犹太人的文化及宗教中 是绝对不可或缺的职分 现在神却将它抹去 因死祭既已成全 活祭就由耶稣基督和 追随基督的人一同献上 每当上帝将意念交付与人，使人了解 上帝的呼召托付与人，使人继承 上帝的旨意降临，被人顺服 这金灯台便降在这些人的身上 在历史中不断的转移 神的心意在这地上借着祂的拣选不断转移 我告诉我的会众 你知道在印尼 上帝的心意就落在归正福音运动吗？ 你知道近百年这许多被称为归正的教会 都已经被上帝弃绝了吗？ 在刚刚我们才听了我们亲爱的弟兄＿＿＿＿， 提及关于＿＿＿＿＿的介绍 他说，自由派不是一个宗教 我说，自由派是最大的异教团体 假装是基督徒来欺骗的上帝的儿女 自由派根本称不上是基督徒 自由派比历史上任何一种异端都更糟糕 因为他们是完全不相信的 你应该明辨 当一个已死的人，站在活的讲台上 这教会实质上已经死了 但一个活着的人即使曾被葬在坟中 祂所传的却永远活着 阿们？ 我们应当能够明辨 那身子虽死却有活的信仰 以及那身子虽活着 信仰却已死的人 这是极为清楚，不可混淆的 我们就知道如何跟随圣灵的引导 金灯台依然不断转移 不要去吹嘘你的历史 有多悠久的传统 我们拥有大的教会、我们拥有一切 我们拥有世界上最好的行政管理组织 那我来告诉你 那些拥有组织管理及财务支援的教会 好像非常有钱而且非常完美 反而都在衰败中 但那些没有建筑物 没有组织、没有钱的教会 他们在没有任何资源下 反而正在崛起成为一股新的新兴力量 我们在耶稣基督身上看见 祂并不倚靠军事的力量 也没有组织作为后盾 既没有财力支援 甚至连宗教的权利也不曾动用 施洗约翰以及耶稣基督 他们在旷野中 没有讲台、没有建筑物 没有财务支援 也没有组织当后盾 却大声呼喊：天国近了！人应当悔改！ 为什么人们不是在圣殿聚集 反有成千上万的人 聚集在荒野的约旦河畔 因为上帝的道在那里 上帝的心意为什么不在圣殿了 上帝为什么拣选这一小群人 引导他们在上帝永恒的旨意中行走 并与他们同在 以圣灵装备他们？ 因为他们领受了上帝的道并信了道 我不在意你的教会有多小 但是我在意的是你是否不忠于主 我不在乎你有多穷 但我在乎你是否有真的信仰 在二十二年中 我们从一个一无所有的教会 从零开始 如今印尼归正福音教会 在全世界有53家分堂 这些分堂，我们并不用财务支援他们 除非他们没有资金 可以买或租赁建堂的场地 我们就支援他们 之后再请他们归还 但是每个月的运作费用 他们就必须在财务上自主 就是这样才能使一个教会 成为活的教会 活的教会倚靠对主的信仰 他们就试着财务自主 感谢上帝 我并没有遵循其他印尼大教会的运作模式 很多印尼的大教会用很多的钱 甚至数以百万资助给分堂 用来开拓建立教会 往往在为分堂建造一座新大楼后 分堂的人就变得怠惰 太过倚靠原来的教会 就变成等待救援、垂死的教会 开始好像拥有一切 结果什么都没有 教会如果没有基督，就一无所有了 人如果没有信，也就一无所有了 如果没有上帝的道，人就毫无价值 人若了解上帝的主权在于主 理解圣经的原则 了解如何遵循和忠于上帝的启示 有一天他们将会一个一个的坚固站立起来 并成为更好的见证 因为上帝必与他们同在 神的心意啊！神的心意啊！ 当施洗约翰和耶稣基督在旷野中兴起 传讲上帝的道并呼召人悔改 从那时起，所有的祭司、 和所有的宗教领袖、法利赛人 就失去了他们的地位 因上帝的荣耀已不在那里 我们且用心倾听上帝心意的准则 上帝的心意必与真正顺从 并紧紧抓住上帝话语的人同在 他们也必明白上帝永恒的旨意 金灯台就在那里 旧有的荣耀就失去了 旧有的存在也就失去了原有的地位 当保罗根据耶稣基督的大使命 开始他的旅行布道 他说：只知道耶稣基督并他钉十字架 (林前2:2) 然后在圣殿中所有的献祭 所有法利赛人遗传下来的律令跟典章 就失去了它们的意义 不再有地位 而上帝的道必临到那些跟从主 圣灵就与他们同在直到永远 现在我们明白这一切 即使这个讲道还在进行中时 金灯台也持续在转移 在19世纪 英国是最重要传教中心 分派传教士到世界各地 戴德生 (James Hudson Taylor, 1832-1905) 札成 Jackson, (Robert David Jackson, 1820- ?) 威廉·克理 (William Carey, 1761-1834) 最有影响力和最重要的传教士 都是从英国被差派出来的 但到了20世纪 金灯台就转移到了美国 五零年代以后 金灯台就从美国移到韩国 不知何时也转移到印尼和其他国家 我们岂不该敬畏？ 我非常的担心 若是上帝不在我们身上作工 单凭我们自己的意思 或我们先人遗留的传统 我们将会一无是处 将变得微不足道 将成为无用的器皿 因为只有上帝的主权和大能 才是推动历史的手 我们不应将荣耀与尊贵归于自己 因为一切尊贵、荣耀的根源 都归上帝和祂十字架上的羔羊 绝无他物 当上帝从人的身上收回源自于祂的恩典 我们就成为无用的人 我们就成为上帝眼中无用的器皿 我详读中国的历史 在1900年的义和团起义 在中国北方有许许多多的 基督徒被杀害 那一年中国内地会(China Inland Mission，CIM) 发起殉道者运动 征求愿意为主道奔走、流血 忠心到死，甚至殉道的人 这些人勇敢地签署自己的名字 励志到死忠于主的道 这是多么令人震惊的 超过8,000人签署，我愿为主而死 我不知在历史当中是否有其他地方 有像这样的行动 超过8000人连署 我已预备为耶稣基督而死 在中国这个地方 在1900那一年 如此多忠心的牧师失去生命 如此多的基督徒或死或被囚 但是你知道吗 在中国教会这悲剧性的1900年后 紧接着1901年，计志文诞生 Andrew L. Gih (1901-1985) 宋尚节也在这一年出生 John Sung (1901 ~ 1944) 接着1903年 守望者倪柝声诞生 Watchman Nee (1903-1972) 紧接着人看为对基督徒大屠杀与迫害 的悲剧发生后 短短在一年至两年半的时间内 这许多基督教伟大的领袖巨擘诞生了 这表明上帝是历史的主宰 单凭着人不能做什么 上帝才是历史的主宰 1945年，因着美国将原子弹投掷在广岛和长崎 终止了二次大战 为什么？ 这代号为“小男孩”的原子弹 为美国所研发拥有 但其实在当时美国的科学界 并没有这样技术与能力的头脑 在那时，科学界最先进的研究人员 都在德国 但是在上帝的任凭中 狂傲的希特勒开始了 迫害犹太人的行动 犹太人爱因斯坦因此来到美国 曼哈顿计划也就此展开 这事成了背后的原因 就是上帝将祂的荣耀 从德国转移进入美国 这些事令我深深敬畏 主何等伟大 因祢全然的主权，事就成了 没有人可以干预 没有人可以动摇 但凭着祢全然的主权， 祢是独一绝对的自由意识 祢所计划的，祢必成就 如今我们看看现在的美国 我告诉你，美国的荣耀正在失去 我不会说已经失去了 但正在逐渐地失去中 不再像过去上帝明显的与他们同在 为什么呢？ 在美国，已经不再有人真实的敬畏上帝 不再有人热切地在上帝面前呼求 然而上帝说，我不需倚靠你 上帝自会呼召其他的人完成祂的旨意 今天让我告诉你 神在全宇宙的心意焦点是在地球上 即使跟太阳比，地球是如此的渺小 不到300万分之一 但地球就是神在全宇宙的心意焦点 因为在这个地上 上帝依自己的形象样式造人 上帝所造的 唯一可以继承祂意念的被造物 唯一可以行在祂的意念中成全祂的旨意 因为人就是依着上帝的形象样式造的 实际上，上帝的形象样式就是耶稣基督 我们就是依照耶稣基督完美的 神的形象与样式所模朔的 在基督永恒的人性中 我们看到了上帝的荣耀充充满满 丰丰富富的活在祂里面 因着信，并遵守祂所命令的一切 并追随祂的脚步 我们成为上帝的儿女 感谢赞美主 这金灯台的转移 基督徒应当留心观看 神的心意既然在于人 而神的心意在人中，就实现在教会里 因为教会是由选民组成的 是神所预定 用基督的宝血作为重价赎回的 在使徒行传第20章中 是唯一的一次说到 牧养上帝的教会 就是用他自己血所买来的 (使 20:28) 我相信这表明耶稣基督的血 就是上帝的宝血，是神的力量 基督用祂永生上帝的血 买赎了教会归于祂 因此我们属于上帝 我们属于永生上帝 我们被拣选并呼召 去成全上帝永恒的旨意 在教会当中，神真正的心意 是落在那些真正的了解上帝永恒旨意 理解上帝永恒的计划 并努力去行的人身上 这世界和其上的情欲都要过去 惟独遵行上帝旨意的，是永远常存 (约翰一书2:17) 所以整个宇宙有一个中心焦点--地球 地球有一个中心焦点--教会 教会有一个中心焦点--遵行归正信仰的人 你有认真的思考过存有这件事吗？ 你认为所有的神学都一样吗？ 你认为所有宗派是平等的吗？ 不！绝对不是的！ 遵行归正信仰的人 努力了解上帝永恒的旨意 并遵从上帝在永恒当中所启示的真理 任何追求在潮流当下的神学立场 都会在永恒当中消失 _______、＿＿＿＿＿＿、＿＿＿＿＿＿、＿＿＿＿＿＿ 这些并不是基于上帝在永恒 启示的真理所建立的神学 都会在永恒中消失 那是人想出来的 那是以人为本的思维 将会被上帝弃绝 因为只有永恒的上帝 才能赐与永生之道 只有在永恒中被拣选的人 忠心顺服这永生之道 方能与上帝的道存到永远 我相信，这地上的中心在于教会 教会的中心在真基督徒的身上 真基督徒的中心在于真实了解上帝旨意 这些就是归正信仰的基督徒 归正信仰的弟兄姐妹们应当严肃尊重 归正信仰的弟兄姐妹应当 意识到这地位的荣耀 不可因任何事出卖身为长子的名份 两年前，我在阿姆斯特丹 三年前 有个人对我说 你应该知道募资非常的困难 真的很困难 今天World Reformed Fellowship (WRF) 若要能够继续运行 我们应该要对归正信仰的神学立场 放松一点 直到今天，每当想起 我依然感到非常震惊 接着人们开始发表意见 一位从南非来的人说 若这是真的 我将退出World Reformed Fellowship (WRF) 我接着站起来说 这只是一个简单的问题，你想要排除什么 你想要保留归正的信仰 你就要排除一些捐赠者 你想要保留人捐赠的钱 你就要排除归正的信仰 你不可同时拥有两个立场 你只能择一 而我选择坚守归正神学信仰 忠心一致的遵守并服从这伟大的传统 不向金钱妥协 这是我的立场 我会永远坚守这个立场 如果归正神学是最忠于圣经 其所追求的最接近圣经启示的真谛 岂不该为这忠实的传统而奋战吗？ 教会之所以是教会 因为教会继承来自于使徒的信仰 因为教会忠于基督我们的主 如果我们自己都不再忠于主 最好自行离开教会 并告诉其他人你是异教徒 你不再是基督的追随者 因为时候要到，人必厌烦纯正的道理 我们就见到教会陷入疑惑当中 如同我在印尼所见 挂着教会招牌的许多建筑物 但是当你看清它的内涵时 它缺乏的是真正的教义 它缺乏了对基督的忠诚 并没有真正基于圣经的教导 人们把微笑挂在脸上 好告诉别人他们是善良的 他们是很可爱的人 告诉人们他们是乐观的 他们充满了希望 因为他们看起来像基督徒 但是他们却只是在欺骗人们 让我们忠心、诚实、一致的 服从并将全人献上与主 当我们持守这真道 成为主在历史中 心意的中心 我们就应当思考 为永恒的目的发光 因为我们不将目光定睛在这地上 并不试着荣耀人 我们的荣耀必须仅献于主 任何人若终身顺服主并只将荣耀归主 他将领导基督教的未来 任何人若真正的敬畏上帝 他必得着自上帝而来真实的智慧 敬畏神是智慧的开端 荣耀上帝是我们被造永恒的目的 不论得时不得时 我们应当坚定追寻真道 我们忠实地高举耶稣基督并祂钉十字架 被钉十字架和复活的基督 在上帝国度中，是神心意中的心意 焦点中的焦点 而唯有基督能带领我们进到上帝永恒的心意中 我们不应贪恋这世界 因为这世界终将过去，永不复返 唯有遵行上帝的旨意的人得以长存 要遵行上帝的旨意 我们应该有神学的立场和传福音的行动 两者并重 在教导中应该结合扎实的神学基础 和活泼生动的讲道 让人可以在其中享受真道 让人们可以在耶稣基督里得尝 上帝荣耀的甜美 但是千万记住 当我们带领人到神上帝的面前 人首先体验到必然是"痛苦"的 我们不是让人们在亲近基督徒时 只享受欢乐 人们来，是为寻求帮助 只注意享受欢乐与帮助 将会引导他们走入错误的道路 要让他们明白 遇见基督的第一个经验一定是"痛苦"的 这就是在芬兰神学家康塔念 所写的"Theology of Evangelism”中 “第一次与神相遇的经验， 是一个很痛苦的经验。 ” 记得当保罗第一次与基督相遇时 他仆倒在地 这是极度痛苦的经历 此后，这令他震惊的经历 使他重新思考 他所信的宗教有何错误 我们都想要拥有轻松的生活 我们在属灵上只想让自己过得去就好 所以我们不想改变我们自己 没有人想接受痛苦的休克疗法 没有人用"光"照我们 让我们如同保罗一样暂时的瞎眼 这就是我们在宗教礼仪跟归正的传统中 不愿意改变的原因 如果我们陷在错误当中不愿意改变 这金灯台自会转移到别人的身上 愿上帝保佑我们 这就是我在这很短的时间内 向你分享的信息 如果你有一些问题 可以随时发问 我会试着回答你的问题 今天的演讲就到这里 非常感谢 有没有人想问问题？ 你可以自由地提问 我会尽力回答 接下来是问题回答的时间 有没有人有任何问题 欢迎提问 这位先生，请您大声提问 我们这里有许多学生正在接受归正神学的教导 毕业后仍在福音派的教会中服事 我们在福音派的教会认识主 我们原来的牧者、领袖 都没有受过归正神学的教导 请问您对于我们在原本教会中如何与他们同工 或去或留的看法如何？ 这是个非常好的问题 也是个难以回答的问题 这问题已经困扰了我大约三十年 最后我告诉自己 没别的办法了 你必须离开原本的教会 离开原本的神学院 为了归正神学，建立信仰的堡垒 当我离开我原来的教会时 我成为一个孤独的人 我自己的学生反对我 我原来的教派敌视我 但我只能倚靠上帝的引导，勇敢向前 我的教会从不知道 我要离开原本教派去开拓教会时 是如何将自己献上 因为在当时 我在印尼是最受欢迎的传教士 当时，我在印尼的听众，就超过100万人 当我开始一个新教会时 没有人要理会我 也没有金钱的支援 没有人想接近你 因为他们认为你只是在建立自己的王国 我只能够呼求上帝 最终，我坚守三个原则 第一 正统应该争取主流 跟着我，1 2 3 现在大部分的基督教会 并不遵循我们认为正统的信仰 相信灵恩派的主张 五旬节教派 自由派神学 这些所谓的shallow evangelicals 他们根本不知道自己信的是什么 他们也不知道自己在信仰中该坚持的是什么 基督的教会怎么能如此呢？ 正统神学应该是主流 我完全同意梅钦博士 (Gresham J. Machen, 1881-1937) 为什么一位忠于使徒教训的人 反而被迫离开 如果他们真是自由主义者 他们应该展开心胸 包含我在内，他们应该接纳我 为何他们把我排除在外？ 这才不是自由主义 对吧？ 因此他创建了Westminster 神学院 Westminster 神学院证明了 世界需要Westminster ，而不是普林斯顿 因为普林斯顿失去了信仰 ，没有上帝的道 他就为上帝的道，使徒的信仰站出来奋战 这是可行的，并带领基督徒的信仰得以延续 这是第一点 第二 在基督里有能力的人 得作为雇主，不要成为一名雇工 跟着我说 我是一个威斯敏斯特学院的学生 噢！我是归正信仰的 我要去福音派教会服事 那你仅仅只是一位雇工 不是雇主 所以当我要开始一个新的行动时 这需要很大的勇气跟胆识 而且是非常非常艰辛的 我相信有许多从这间归正信仰神学院 毕业的学生 也没有勇气这样去做 因为钱从哪里来？ 我要如何养活我的家人？ 如果没有教会雇用我的话 我要如何支付我的财务需求？ 所以你甘于当一个雇工 若要实践我所提的这第二点 你可能会经历许多苦难 当我们在非洲时 有一个归正信仰的同工 我问他，你是从香港来的吗？ 他回答：是的 从香港有多少归正神学的同工代表 前来参加这次在约翰尼斯堡的 World Reformed Fellowship？ 他说：只有我一个人 怎么会只有你一个人呢？ 为什么只有你一个人前来？ 他说：因为香港没有归正教会 我问他：你做了什么呢？ 你在香港已经35年了 在这35年内 却没有任何一个人开拓建立归正教会 过了无数个35年 归正信仰的人们都离开世界了 而香港却依然没有归正教会 我告诉他 以前在印尼也没有归正教会 但我从一间、两间、三间、四间开始 22年后，已经有了53个分堂 现在有超过一万人 在世界各地的归正福音教会聚会 我们仍持续的建立教会 为何要让灵恩派去创造他们的文化 为何让那些人成为雇主 而你却成为雇工呢？ 为什么你不自己开拓一个教会呢？ 为什么不从零开始 单凭圣经的教导并对主的忠诚 告诉上帝说：我想要遵从祢的旨意 请祢让这群人们从忠诚的心开始 也许你应该这样思考 下个月开始你就没有薪水养活你的家了 你不倚靠工资，先凭着自己的存款 你可能会让家里的人挨饿 当我从玛琅到雅加达时 我做了一个决定 这两年当中 我只是全心投入新的归正福音运动 从中没有任何的收入 直到今日我仍旧不明白 在这用七百三十天中 我是如何养活家中的七个人和两个帮佣的 我到底是如何做到的 但是在人这是不能的，在神凡事都能 两年后 我们开始牧养一群人 我们开始有一些奉献 然后我才开始领一点薪水 用来供养我的家人 在20年后 我们建立了全球最大的华人礼拜堂 可容纳6500人的座位 主堂可容纳4700人 副堂可容纳1800人 这怎么可能？真的成就了 怎么做到的？我也不知道 但我深知我所信的是谁 就是那呼召亚伯拉罕的上帝 同样的上帝 同样的顺服那呼召 这是第二点 第三 内涵争取容具 跟着我念，1, 2, 3 19世纪是产出文化内涵的年代 20世纪是"容具"的年代 所以在音乐厅中 我们享受人们演奏 巴哈(Johann Sebastian Bach, 1685-1750) 贝多芬(Ludwig van Beethoven, 1770-1827) 莫扎特(Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, 1756- 1791) 海顿(Franz Joseph Haydn, 1732-1809) 孟德尔颂 (Jakob Ludwig Felix Mendelssohn Bartholdy,1809-1847) 瓦格纳 (Wilhelm Richard Wagner, 1813-1883) 这些是19世纪以前的音乐的 但是在20世纪的"容具"中 20世纪本身的文化内涵在哪里？ 糟糕的音乐 19世纪产生了很多文化内涵 而20世纪只产生了许多的"容具" 存在主义--19世纪的产物 共产主义--19世纪的产物 逻辑实证主义--19世纪的产物 如此之多 达尔文主义--也是19世纪的产物 现在学校采纳全部19世纪的内容 经过了70年的教导后人们才明白 哦，我们错了 号称信奉经济共同体的学者 最终都成为银行资本家 我们才意识到 我们从一场梦中醒来 却失去了70年的时间 所以我认为20世纪是个愚蠢的世纪 不知道你是否同意 我想我活着的时间非常有限 我已经49岁了 我决定开始推动归正福音运动 不再浪费任何时间 就从现在、从雅加达开始 不管人们如何反对我 也不管人们如何忽视我 没有经济的支援我也不在乎 我是从没有支薪、没有经济的援助下就开始了 教会的状况就逐渐好转 你需要这样的信心 现在我也教导我的学生们要这样行 因为从归正神学院毕业的学生并不受欢迎 人们说：你是归正的，去别的地方吧！ 他们将我们边缘化 他们将我们孤立 所以我们开拓自己的教会 最终，一个接着一个 在没有人的协助下，独立成长 变成举足轻重的教会新兴力量 虽然开始很微小，不要害怕 开始虽小，但抱持极大的勇气 比起声势浩大的开始却毫无信心好多了 声势浩大的开始却没有信心 只会逐渐衰败 但从微小开始却有信心的 却会逐渐壮大 阿们 或许就是你需要好好禁食祷告两星期 沉淀一下看看这对你而言是否可行 但他说：我还是没有信心 我告诉他：你试着抱持归正信仰、影响你的教会 并改变教会当中长者既定的心意 但我认为要改变教会的长执们心意 是很困难的 我认为这是很困难的 而且你可能会浪费了很多的时间 所以你可以选择离开或是留下来 开拓新的教会 或留下来继续作为雇工 愿主保守引导你 还有问题吗？ 不然我要回去休息了 还有其他问题吗？ 你还有问题 请站起来 我们有一些归正信仰的老师 他们教我们关于福音派或______ 从归正神学的角度 你会如何评论________或福音派主义的现状呢？ 我告诉你福音运动可以变成什么都是 许多福音派的人并没有坚定的信仰 他们并不敢明确的指名事情的对错 最终随从世俗 再过十几二十年 人就变了 因此，许多软弱的福音派领袖们 他们试图用迷信的方法 因为他们相信 若不走灵恩派路线 就不能让教会复兴充满人 所以借着用音乐当作工具 有的用鼓 有的用活泼的音乐 但这音乐中却没有圣道 或许是新潮的音乐文化 已经毒害了这世代的年轻人 一点一点的 我们在讲道的事奉上妥协了 原则也就渐渐地消失了 所以你们要留心 要坚定地持守圣经的教导原则 是非常非常困难的 但是我们需要这样坚定持守的领袖 否则教会的立场就危险了 还有人要问问题吗？ 最后一个问题 请说 one feature, which seems to be prevalent 有关于男人和女人的性别的混淆 因此当女人扮演了男人的角色 最终，这股风潮了遍及了全美各地的教会 成为同性恋者的组织之一 在这种混乱中，您认为男人和女人的本质应该是什么？ 归正教会如何持守信念 不受潮流的影响？ 如果我们顺服上帝的道 我们就要顺服圣经的教导 反过来如果我们要强解圣经 让圣经顺服我们 好让我们随意扭曲圣经的立场 因此，同性恋的议题 女权主义的议题 绝对会毁了教会 但现在的人无法看清 要到两三代以后 当这些错误的立论吞吃了整个教会 想要重建教会就为时已晚了 我认为只有那些谨守遵行圣经教导 与原则的教会 能胜过 因此除了忠心持守圣经的原则外 没有别的方法可行 唯有信而顺服，才能得上帝的喜悦 别无他法 这是我的回答 特别感谢唐崇荣博士今天的演讲 他说我今天的演讲到这里了 感谢您的参与与聆听我的演讲 愿上帝赐福你们 丰丰富富的增添你们的心力 使你们可以在教会中服事神 谢谢

Once again, first of all, I still think I'm not worthy at all, to give any speech or any lecture here, to you and the people. But by the grace of God, I try to stand up, and will speak something I feel I should tell you, what God told me in my life. Praise God for Reformed theology, which had stand up for about five hundred years. To prove itself, as one of the most faithful system of learning to submit human being before the sovereignty of God. In Past 500 years, Reformed theology had already proven itself, to be the most faithful, most consistent, and most significant defender of faith as we already have. Through the revelation of God in Jesus Christ, which had be given to be the heritage, and our property for ever and ever to the church, Today I'm going to talk to you about the focal point in the history, and the growth to the eternity. What does it mean? In history we have two main things. The first, the human effort and God's work. Human effort always think that we are clever enough, we are able enough to do everything we want to do, just like the motivation of building the Tower of Babel. To manifest, to glorify, and to make known our name, and our effort in history. But there is so clearly, the interruption of God's work in the history for every age. An interruption of gospel is sometime unseen, because God is invisible. So human being always think that we need not to have any interference from God. We need not to care about what is a so-called supernatural power, working among the nature world. Because we human being are autonomous, and we are powerful enough to manage, to arrange who plan everything you're going to do. That is the reason I think, we should see clearly with the eyes of the believer, the interference of God, and the hand of God, in the human history. If you see another hand is now working in our society, that the eye sight of believer will see the throne of God, and a guidance of his spirit is only among those who believe, and those who obey, and submit to the Trinity of God. So this is very important. Because this kind of interruption Interaction, so we see there is a focal point, which always ignored and neglected by human culture. In the history, we see every age has something happen ignored, and do not care by human being. But finally becomes that something that cannot be ignored in the future, in the long line history of human culture. So when God call upon Abraham, Depart from your homeland from your father's house, from your nation and go to someplace, where I want you to go. He didn't tell Abraham where Is the ＿＿＿＿＿＿, where is the final point to go. But by faith and by faith alone, the people of God obey. Do you know at that time, Ur is the biggest city in the world. And Mesopotamia is the cradle of human civilization, the most highest cultured city, with houses discovered by archaeologists. Some _______158 rooms, because richness, because the prosperity of that time is so clear. but I should tell you, after Abraham called by God to leave that city, it is the meaning of the Mesopotamia is no more significance at all. Any time when the interruption of God, to some elected and some obedient people occurs, and that history changed, that candlelight moved, and senter point of the universe shift. Abraham was called out from Ur, and Ur becomes nothing. Now you listen and you study history, even not pay attention or paying notice to the city of Ur, because It is no more meaningful for human after than. But Abraham becomes the most meaningful in the human culture. Any time had God interferes, any time the focal point changed, God had created the whole universe for his manifestation of his glory. But in the whole universe, there's only one very small focal point, and that focal point is not Sun, not galaxy, not other planets outside of the galaxy or Milky Way or anywhere. But the focal point is only in this small earth. It doesn't matter how big is the size? But it matters if the value of meaning is there. Meaning connection, meaning we should understand whose meaning, who put the meaning in it. The meaning which is the manifestation of the eternal will of God. And that cost the meaning to be meaningful. If meaning is not meaningful in connection with the eternal Word of God and eternal planning, either the Will of God that meaning is not meaningful at all. so when God called Abraham to depart from the city of Ur, the meaning move, and the focal point move. So the ce nter point a focal point of the universe. is on this earth, and the meaningful and the focal point of this earth, is based on elected people. Why predestination is so important in reformed theology? Because in eternal will, God want some people to be His, to carry on His purpose, to do His will, and to submit Himself, to live for that meaning. That is the reason the whole universe has a focal point on this earth, and The Earth has a focal point on human being. Because human being are created after the image and the likeness of God. So human beings should be like God. The original image and likeness of God is only in His Son, Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is eternal focal point of everything in the universe, both naturally and supernaturally, but the nature people who know how to live in accordance with original of the image and likeness of God, they will be like God. Now the heart of God and the heart of man could be one. And when we are in accordance with the will and heart of God, it is caused by the union with Christ. This is a mysterious Union. this is the eternal union, this is the spiritual union, and this is organic union, the union between life and the source of life. The union between life and the life which is creating everything, according to His own will. That is the reason when Moses lead Israel people out from the slavery in Egypt, then Egypt is no more significance Egypt is no more meaningful, so Egypt is to be erased from history. It is so seriously so, solemn, that we think about every principle written in all these great events in the Bible, that God is shifting His will from one place to another place. Are we studying Egypt? What do you get from Egypt now? We get from certain common, we get from the pyramids and a great architecture of that time, We get what? It is not so meaningful, because the history of salvation had told us, that the will of God and the meaningful meaning is the move from that great Empire io this slavery nation. Because they know the heart of God. They unite their heard with the heart of God, and they have a union with Jesus Christ. And Moses was the man who say I will rather to suffer together with the people of God, then just enjoy the richness and the glory and the honor, in the palace of Egypt. So Egypt is no more significance, Egypt's no more glorious, Egypt's no more meaningful. If it is erased from history, that's okay, but the will of God goes on. The lantern of the God is shifting, shifting to the people elected by God. If you know this principle, and you read the Bible, you will see the greatness of God, because he's doing his will, not within the big crowd of people. Do not depend on the quantity, but depend of the quality people, who knows His heart, who follows His will, and who want to do with all their heart loving God, to practice what His plans on this earth. And you see one by one, after Abraham, _______, Noah Moses and David and Elijah, Daniel. You see the same thing happen, the focal point is moving moving and moving, again and again and again. Until the heart of the hearts, the Will of the Wills, the purpose of the process of God was done in His church. The invisible church, the spiritual church, the true church, the authentic Christians, the true believer. And when I preach in Moscow, in Minsk, in Kiev, in Belarus, in Leningrad, or _________ Petersburg. I ask them, these people even _________. They don't understand what's that. Are these people reform? They don't understand. They do not want to understand me. And they, they do not want to answer me. And they said, in Russia we don't say evangelical, ecumenical. all those two minerology are imported from United States. But we here in Russian, we only have two kinds of Christian, believer and non-believer. I was shocked. It's a very good division. It's very good community, because God says without faith, no one can please God, So it is right choice to say this is a believer and those are not believer. The believer are those who show the faith before God, to obey God's Word and to understand, and to believe the revelation of God. And this are truly we call reformed people. Brothers and sisters, if God is doing like this, so you see when Elijah was sacrificing before God, why he didn't go to Jerusalem? Was it true that every Israel should to go to Israel three times every year? And bring their offering to God, and put on the altar in the temple. That is the first time, temple is not important. Because God is not only working in this area, this city, this building. God is supernatural. So I was so amazed, a prophet so great, so recognized by the Israeli. No one denies that the ______________ of all profits must be Elijah. But Elijah never went to Jerusalem once, neither not to give offerings on the altar. He need not step into the temple of God. Elijah was born after the Solomon's Temple built for many many years, but why he didn't obey the Word of God? Because the power of God, and the sifting act is now following him, and after Elijah come to the _________, on mound he get the revival in the fire from above. At that time it indicates, Jerusalem is no more importance. Jerusalem is no more important, until when Jesus were crucified outside of the wall of Jerusalem, and the time make clearer and clearer. In _________ year of 73, when Roman Empire defeat the last group of soldier of Israeli in Masada, and they will be no more offering on the altar. No more prophets, no more kings, and no more priests. _________ do not need any more king, prophet and priest, which are so absolutely necessity, so absolutely needed, in the Jewish system of culture new religion. Now this __________. Because the dying sacrifice finished the function, and the living sacrifice start from Jesus, and the follows of him. Anytime when the will of God is understood by men, and the calling of God is accepted by men, the will of God is obeyed by men, then the lantern is a shifting, shifting, shifting. And the focal point on this earth is always moving, moving. I tell my member, do you know the focal point in Indonesia is now in the Reformed Evangelical Movement? Do you know there's so many so-called Reformed churches for hundred years of the history is now being ___________ by God? Just now we listen to the introduction about _______ by our beloved brother ________. And he said _________ is not a religion. May I said ________ is the greatest pagan, who fake and pretend to be Christians to cheat the children of God. ____________ is totally non-christian, ________ are worse than any kind of heresy in history, but they are totally non-believer. You should know when a dead man standing on the living podium, the church is dead. But a living man dying in the tomb, his teaching is still living. Amen? We should discern that dead man who has a living faith, and the living people which faith is dying. Very clearly. then we know how to follow t he step of Holy Spirit. Praise God. The lantern is moving, moving, moving. Do not boast of your history whether such a long tradition. We have a big temple, we have everything, we have a big organization where the most perfect administration in the world. Should I tell you all churches which are declining now, are the churches with organization, administration and financial support, very rich and very perfect. But church with no building, no organization, no money, they are rising up as a new emerging force, with no any support. Jesus shows us that he is not depending on military power, not organizational power, not on financial power, even not on religious power. John the Baptist and Jesus Christ, they stand up in the wilderness, with no podium, no building, no financial support, no organization, and crying out: Repent ye. Because the kingdom of God is at hand, and why people do not go to the temple anymore? Why people gather hundreds of thousands in the riverbank of the Jordan? Why they come to the wilderness? Because the Word of God is there Why shift? Why moving? Why the power of God is leading a small group of people, to walk in the will of His eternity and then be with them, equip them with the Spirit. Because they carry on the faith in the Word of God. I don't care how small you start, but I care how unfaithful you are to the Lord. I don't care how poor you are, but I care if you have the true faith on it. In twenty-two years We started from one church from zero nothing at all, now we have 53 branches all over the world Indonesian Reformed Evangelism Church. And so many branches we never, or we need not to send money to them. Until they need some place to buy, some place to rent, and they do not have money, we borrow them money and ask them to pay after that. But operation fee every month what they need, they should be independent This is the way to cause the church to become a living change, Depending on their faith in the Lord, and they tried to self supply. I didn't follow the pattern of other big churches in Indonesia They have a lot of money, they send millions to other place to build a church for them. After building a new building for them, and they become lazy, become depending on the center, and they tried to be a dying church. Start from everything they becomes have nothing. If you have no Jesus Christ, you have nothing If you have no faith you have nothing. if you have no Word of God, you have nothing. But people who understand the sovereignty of God, understand the principle of the Bible, understand how to follow and faithful to the revelation of God, they will one day one stand up, and better witness, because God is with them. Focal point ,focal point, focal point When John the Baptist and Jesus stand up and preach the true word to call upon the repentance, from that time on, all the ministry of the priests and all the religious leaders, Pharisees, will become no more significance, because the meaning is no more there. Let's listen and pay attention to this principle, where the heart of God is with the truly obedient heart of man together, and they grasp, they understand the meaning of eternal will of God, and the lantern is there, others will be desolate, others with being no more significance. When Paul preach the gospel, according to the great commandment of Jesus Christ, go everywhere to tell people ______ but the crucified Christ and His resurrection and then all the offering in the temple, and all the manuscripts are written by the Manuscripts, and other Pharisees, becomes no more significance, no more importance. But the word of Lord will come to them, to those who follow God, and the Holy Spirit is with them for ever and ever Now we see all these, when the preaching is going on, going on, the shifting of the lampstand is moving continuously. In 19th century, Britain is the most important country to export missionaries to all over the world Hudson Taylor, (James Hudson Taylor, 1832-1905) Jackson, (Robert David Jackson, 1820- ?) William Carey, (1761-1834) all the most influencing, and most important mission are from Britain. But not until 20 century, that is moved to United States. Of the 50s United States desolated, and move to Korea, and someday moved to Indonesia, and move to other places. Are you not fearing? I'm very afraid of if God is not working anymore, according to our will, not working anymore in our tradition. We will be nobody, we will be insignificant anymore, we will be no use. Because only the sovereignty and the power of God makes history working We never boast our glory, our honor, because the __________ glory honor, and everything belongs only to God, and the lamb of God, which have been slain on the cross. Nothing else. when God wants to remove all the grace from human being, we will be nobody, we will be no use in eyesight of God. I carefully studied the history in China, when 1900, the Boxer movement (or Yihetuan Movement) had already ruined, and so many Christian are killed in the northern China. At that year, the China Inland Mission had a movement to ask people who want to be martyred, and want to be faithful until they shed their blood and die for God. They signed up. They have promised to be faithful to the God. And it is astonishing, 8,000 some people signed, I'm going to die for God. I don't know if there is any move like that in the history in other part of the world. More than 8,000 signed. I am ready to die for Jesus Christ. In China. And that year, 1900, So many faithful pastors beheaded, so many Christians put to death, put to prison. But what happened do you know? 1900 is the tragedy years of Chinese Church 1901 born Andrew L. Gih (1901-1985) John Sung (1901 ~ 1944), and then 1903, born Watchman Nee (1903-1972) so many giants of the Christian leaders was born, only one to two and half years after the great murder, and the great persecution of the servant of God. It indicates God is the controller of the history. God will never let men going as what they want. God is always interference the history. In 1945, because of the atomic bomb exploded in Hiroshima and in Nagasaki, and started the second War. Why? atomic bomb so-called "Little Boy", was owned by United States Actually United States didn't have the scientific brain too good At that time, the most scientific and most advanced scientific people are in Germany. Not because God let, but permitted, but allow, and give up Hitler for his pride, to oppose, to persecute all the Jewish people, so Einstein came to United State. And Manhattan Project was developed here, and that is the reason God shift the glory of Germany into the United States All these things cause me to be fear of the Lord, not __________ of great. Your work is done according to your sovereignty, which no one can interfere, no one can interrupt. But you are the only absolute free will in your hand, that you can do everything according to what you plan. now if we see the United States, I should tell you the glory of the United States is going, I do not say is gone, is going gradually. No more the presence of God so clear as before. Because of what? The united states had lost people who truly fear the Lord, who pray fervently before God. And God say, I do not depend on you. God is calling other people to continue His will? Today, I should tell you the focal point of the universe on this earth, Even though this earth is so small in comparison with the sun, only one per tri-million size. But this earth is a center point. This earth is a focal point of God's will. Because on this earth, created human being according to the image and the likeness of God, the only being that can carry on the will of God. The only being can practice what God wants in His plan. Because we are created after the image and likeness of God So called image and likeness, actually that is Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is the image in the likeness. we are created after Christ, because of his image and likeness of God. In the eternal humanity of Jesus Christ, we see the glory of God abundantly live in him, and by believing him and live according to his guidance, and to follow his steps, we can be the children of God. We praise God, that the moving of the focal point, Christians must pay attention to it. And the focal point is in human being, and the focal point of a human being is the church? because the church is composed of the elected people. The people who are predestined, and who are truly purchased by the blood of Jesus Christ. in Chapter 20 of Acts, that is the only time you should pastor them, the sheep of God which he purchased with his blood. I believe it indicates the blood, Jesus Christ, as a power of the deity, because God's blood purchased the church to belongs to Him, So, we belong to God, we belong to eternal of God, and we are chosen and called to do the eternal will of God. And the focal point of the church is in those people who truly understand the eternal will of God, understand the eternal plan of God, and doing the eternal plan of God. Because the earth and all the lust of the word will pass away, only for those who walk out the will of God, will last forever and ever. So the universe has a focal point, Earth. The earth has a focal point, Church, and the Church has a focal point, reformed people. Do you think you are so seriously existing in this world? Do you think all theologies the same? Do you think all denomination is equal? No, absolutely no. Reformed people are the people who try to understand the eternal will of God, and obey the theology of the eternal revelation of God. Any theology which is the arrival of temporality will not last forever and ever. Sly marker? Richard? Wellhausen? William Herman? at the fan Hannah? Trudged? and all theology which is not based on the eternal Word of God, That's human production, that human centered thinking, will be thrown away by God, because only eternal God give out eternal word. And only Eternal elected people, who faithfully obey the eternal Word of God, that can last forever and ever. So I believe, the earth has a focal point on church, And the Church have a focal point on the true Christian, and the true Christian has a focal point of the true understanding God's Will Christian, and that is the reformed people. Reformed people should know we are so dignified. Reform people should realize and conscious that we are so glorious. So we must not sell our compromise, our Right to be the eldest son to everything. Two years ago I was in Amsterdam, three years ago, and there is once men say, in order to raise some money, You should know it is so difficult, and so difficult to get money, so if World Reformed Fellowship wants to continue, We should not be too strict on our Reformed Theology I was amazed until today. I was so shocked. So when people give their opinion, one from _________ say if this is right that, I will resign from ____________ fellowship. And I stood up and say, this is only a matter of filter out which one. You want to keep Reformed Theology, you filter out the donator. But you want to keep the donation, you fil ter throughout Reformed Theology. You cannot have both, you should chose one. And I'll chose keep Reformed theology, be faithful and consistent to follow, and to obey this a great tradition. But do not compromise with money. That Is my stand point. I will keep this stand point forever and ever. If Reformed Theology is a true interpretation, and the closest to the original meaning of the ___________ in the Bible, who should fight forever for this faithful tradition? A Church is a church, because the church is keeping the great tradition inherited from the apostles time. A church is a church Because the church is faithful to our Lord. If we are no more faithful people, better leave Church. tell others you are pagan. You're not follower of Jesus Christ, The days will come that we see Church become so confused, confused, confused and confused. Just like what I see in Indonesia, so many building hang on church, church. But when you see clearly inside, there's no true doctrine, there's no true faithfulness, there's not true teachings according to the Bible. And people try to be smiling, telling people that they are good people, telling people that they are lovely people, telling people that they are optimistic, They are on the hope, because they look like a Christian. But they are cheating people. Let's be faithful, let's be honest, let's be consistent, let's be obedient and submissive before the Lord. And after we had kept all this, as a focal point in history, we should think of another thing. Grow for eternity. Because our purpose is not this earth. We are not trying to glorified anybody. The glory must be only to God So which one is consistently obey and give glory only to God, he will lead the future of the Christianity. Which one is a truly fear of the Lord, he will get the true wisdom from God. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of the wisdom. The glory to God will be our everlasting purpose, and by that, we should firmly in season or out of season reach the Word. We should faithfully lift up Jesus Christ and he crucified. The crucified and resurrected Christ is the focal point of the focal point of everything in the kingdom of God. and only Jesus Christ is the one who bring us to do the will of God forever and ever? We do not think about what we can achieve on this Earth, because the world will pass away and never return again. But we do the will of God and that will last for ever and ever. For doing the will of God, we should combine theology and evangelization. We should combine the solid teachings, and the easy to be understood preaching, let people come and enjoy, let people taste the sweetness of the grace of God in Jesus Christ. But remember, when you cause people encounter with God, the first experience must be bitter. We do not just let people be so happy when they come to the Christians, they come to get a benefits, that will be guided wrongly into the wrong path. But let them know to meet Jesus Christ, the first experience must be very bitter. This is what written in the theology of evangelism, written by the Norwegian theologian __________. To meet with Christ is a very bitter experience. Remember Paul? When he first met Jesus Christ, he was cast down, he fell down, and that's very very bitter experience, and from that, the shocking experience caused him to rethink, What is wrong in his religion? We want to have easy life, you want to have a easygoing spiritual experience, so we never change. No shock therapy in our experience, nobody illuminate us and cause us to be blind, like Paul. That is the reason we continue our religious, and our Reformed tradition forever without change. If you don't change from the wrong things, the lantern will be moved again to others. May God bless us, and this is what I want to address to you in this very short time. Afterward if you have some question to ask, please feel free to ask, and I'll try to answer your question. I finished my lecture here. Thank you very much. Is there anybody want to ask a question? and you can raise up your question freely, I try to answer as my best. Do you want to take a quick minute for a question? Does anyone have one, we'll be glad to fill them? Yes, sir if you'll speak loudly. How would you teach us? The church that we have been from, thank you. Thank you. This is a very good question, and very difficult to answer. this question had puzzled me for about thirty years, and Finally I tell myself, no other way, comes out from the original Church, comes out from original Bible College, and established the fortress for the Reformation. When I comes out I become the lonely people. My students becomes my enemies, and the formal denomination, they look at me just like look at the enemies. But I should look back to them, with courage and consistently going on, according to the guidance of God. My church never known how I sacrifice, when I depart from the original. Because at that time I was the most welcomed preacher ever in Indonesia My audience had been more than 1 million in all Indonesia, but when I start a new one, no one want to care, no one want to support with money, no one will come to you, because they think you are building your own Kingdom. I Can only cry before God? Finally I composed three principles, the first is, orthodoxy should regain the mainstream. Follow me. 1 2 3 Now the majority of Christianity are following the Not Orthodox faith. They believe in the charismatic doctrines, Pentecostal, liberals, So-called shallow evangelicals. They just do not know what they are believing. They do not know what to hold on in their faith, so how can Christianity be like this? All thought of faith should be the mainstream. I totally agree with dr. Mansion Why a man who is a faithful to the original doctorate inherited from apostles be excommunicated out. if they are liberal, they should open their hand wide, and Include me, they should accept me. Why they exclude me? That's not liberal, not liberal enough, right? So he started Westminster, and Westminster proof that the world need this more than ________. Need the Princeton. Because there's no faith, no Word of God, He has a fighting for faith, fighting __________ of God, and this can survive and can make the Christianity go along. This is first. Second, a man with the capability of being an employer, must not become an employee. Follow me. A man who is able to be employer must not be employee. Westminster student, Oh, I'm reformed, I go to evangelical church, I serve your employee. You are not employer So when I say I should start the new things, Oh, that is a great courage, a lot of guts to do it. but it is very very difficult. I believe a lot of Reformed student graduates from this reformed school have no courage to do this. Because who give me money? Who will feed my family? How can I have my financial needs if no church hire me? Oh, so you are hired? It takes probably bitter, A lot of bitter experience for you to follow what I said that the second point. When we were in Africa, A Comrade, comrade is reformed people, I asked him, you from Hong Kong? Yes. How many reformed people from Hong Kong, representing Hong Kong reformed people and attend in this World Reform Fellowship in Johannesburg? He said only me. How come only you? Why only you? Because Hong Kong has no Reformed Church And what did you do? You have been in Hong Kong for 35 years? No one started a Reformed Church? and another 35 years, and another 35 years, and another 35 years. and all you reformed people died there, and still no Reformed Church. I told him, in Indonesia there was no reform church. May I started one, two, three, four, after 22 years becomes 53 branches. Out from zero, Now more than ten thousand people attended Reformed Evangelical Church worldwide. We are created. Why let charismatic people creating their culture? Why let other people become employer, and you become employee? Why don't you start your own? Why don't you start for something faithful and from the origin, from the beginning. Say God, we want to obey you and let these group people start with the faithful heart to you. Probably you should think about this, and from next month, no salary you for your family. And you start with no salary with your own savings. You make your family probably hungry. You know when I moved from Malang to Jakarta, I make decision, two years no getting any money from the new reform movement I'm building. So until now, I do not understand how can I feed my family with seven people and two servants, for seven hundred thirty days? Not until now I do not understand why, how can I did it? But God is able to do it, and after two years we get some people, we get some offering, and after that, I start to get some money from the offering to feed my family. And after 20 years, we build the biggest overseas Chinese church in the world, with a capacity of sixty thousand five hundred seats, with the four thousand seven hundred seats above in the main sanctuary, and another 1800 seats in the second hall, auditorium. Is it possible? Possible. How can it be? I don't know But I know whom I believe, I know I'm following the God who called Abraham to follow, the same God, the same method. This is second. Third, People with content should have their own containers. Follow, one two three. People with content should have their own container. 19th century is a century of content 20th century is a century of container. So in concert hall, we are playing, performing the music of Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Haydn, Mendelssohn, Wagner, those music are 19th century. But contain in the 20th century container. Where are the content of 20th century? Lousy musics. 19th century produce a lot of content, and 20 centuries produce a lot of container. Existentialism, 19th century, communism, 19th century, logical positivism, 19th century. So many. Darwinism, 19th century. Now school try to adopt all the 19th contents and to teach people, After 70 years of practice that we realize, oh, we are wrong. Anyone who adopt the greatest theory of the greatest economies c________ becomes economical _____________ We realized. we wake up for our dream, and we lost our time for 70 years So I called 20th century, the stupid century. I don't know you agree or not. So I think I have a very limited life, w hen I was fourteen nine years old. I say I start reform movement. No waiting, no more wasting my time. Start now in Jakarta, People oppose me. I don't care. Ignore me. I don't care. No sending money. I don't care I start, and start with no payment, no salary. After two years, comes up, comes up. So you need the faith like that. Now I'm teaching my student how to start. Because our student from the reform seminary, not welcome. You reformed, reformed, go, go. You reformed. They marginalize us. They isolate us. So we start our own. Finally, one by one, by one, by one, comes up, come without help. and independent become very new, important, new emergence denomination. Even though start from small, no afraid. You must not fear. The small starting with the big courage, is better than with a big starting with no courage. A big starting with no faith will decline, but small starting with a great faith w ill grow. So, probably you need to pray and fasting for two weeks. to ________ it is possible for you or not. But he said I still no faith. try to make reform faith and influencing power in your church. To change the mind of your senior possible, but it is very difficult to change your deacons. I tell you very difficult, and probably you will waste a lot of time. So you can choose live or stay. And start a new one or to be employee. May God lead you and bless you. Any other questions? If you do not have question, I'm going to sleep. You people still have other question to ask? Please, you still have question. Now stand up. There are some Reform teachers, who told us about I told you evangelical movement can becomes everything. So a lot of evangelicals are not firm. They are not daring to say this is right, this is wrong. And finally flattering, and after 10 years 20 years, they change. so a lot of weak evangelical leaders, they tried to be superstitious. Because they believe if not going charismatic way, there's no possibility of getting the church revived. So comes by importing a music with a drum with a so lively music, but no intention of changing and reforming the word inside. Probably new creation of the music culture venom or our young people, and probably step-by-step compromised in preaching, and in other principles finally gone. So be careful. Very very strongly hold on all the principle of Bible is very difficult. But it needs these kind of people to be the leader, otherwise just are in danger. Anyone want to ask some more questions again? last question. Please. One feature Barely any intuition about the nature and So the woman is So if we want to obey to the Bible, That we submit to the Word of God If we want to interpret Bible, let Bible obey to us, You can change all kind of standpoint in the Bible. So, homosexual issue and Feminism issue will ruin the church by sure. But people now don't see it, until two or three generations, When church are swallow up by all these wrong issues, it is too late to restore the church again. So I believe only those who are very strictly obey the rule, and obey the principle of the Bible will prevail. So keep your heart faithful to the principle of the Bible, no other path can save the church. Only those who obey God will be blessed by the Lord. No other way. That's my answer. Yeah, he said I'm done. Thank you very much for cooperating and for listening to a man like this. God bless you. and richly enrich your ability to serve the Lord as a servant in the church. Thank you